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There are no significant biological differences between races
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I know their are some biological differences, but i said "significant", i'm referring to arguments i have heard that different races on average have different IQ's, intrinsic values, skills, extra.
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Article: http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/science-genetics-reshaping-race-debate-21st-century/
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Imagine a room that contains a group of people representing every Race of Human Being on Earth. Now acknowledging that the distinct physical characteristics of your body determine what Race you belong to and those same distinct physical characteristics are a result of your genetics...think about what would happen if you changed the genetics of one person in one group to that of another.
For example: There are five Caucasoid, five Negroid and five Mongoloid in three groups. Suppose you change the genetic makeup of a member of the Caucasoid group and his/her skin becomes black. If you maintain the standard of properly identifying groups by their Race...does the person in question still belong in the Caucasoid group or does he/she now belong in the Negroid group? If your genetic makeup can determine which Race of people you belong to then is that significant? In my opinion I'd say so but mostly due to social identity.
Our social identity is critical to us in general (Not for everyone). Human Beings find meaning and importance in accepting and celebrating their heritage which includes your Race(s). The common statement "I'm 1/3 Native American, 1/3 Irish and 1/3 Hispanic" is a testament to how much regard people have for their heritage and what it means to them...regardless of how accurate it is or isn't.
TL;DR: Our biological makeup is the code that represents what Race each of us are and we put a significant amount of importance in this as part of our identity. Ultimately we also take note (Because it's noteworthy) of the difference in our Races, not as a benchmark in superiority but instead a benchmark in uniqueness. So yes, it's significant.
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Okay i agree with all that but i was speaking on the level of genetics and biology not socially. I agree that many people value their race as their identity (pretty stupid in my opinion but it happens) but that is just a social construct not a biological fact.
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While our race being part of our identify is a social construct...your biological makeup is what determines your race. So while there might not be a huge difference genetically between the races, the difference that IS there is what causes racial distinction and that distinction is substantial because of the Social Construct that is our identity.
Essentially, the biological difference between the races (Being minor physical attributes) is actually substantial because of how critical our self-identify is to each of us. Without that minor genetic difference...diversity would be limited to political ideology and personal beliefs. Because of that minor genetic difference...we have huge diversified groups of people and I've heard that diversity is a good thing.
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I agree with that but i wanted to talk about alt right talking points like 'race and IQ' that i have dismissed but would like to hear some good arguments for it. I think most people agree race influences things in the world, it clearly does so im not interested in debating it.
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I'm not sure what I think about Race and IQ as I've never studied, researched or heard much on the matter...although I wouldn't be surprised if White Supremacists out there truly did think that certain races were more or less intelligent that others.
To the core of the issue: the Overwhelming majority of your IQ or intellectual capacity is determined by your genes. Now, CAN you increase your capacity for intelligence? Technically yes but from the available research we have...the short answer is "Not by much". It still seems to be the case that some people are simply born to be smarter than others. Mind you we're still talking about intelligence, not knowledge.
Since your genes seem to determine your intellectual capacity, it would be an interesting study to see how different races compared...since genetics is what determines your Race. I doubt you'd ever see it though, simply for fear of getting undeniable results that one race is overwhelmingly more intelligent than another. The mere possibility of that outcome is enough to keep people away from researching it. Anyone who did though, if they had the guts, would almost certainly labeled an automatic racist, biased, bigot, ____phobe.
I don't have enough information or hard facts to make an educated decision on what I think is most probable in regards to Race playing a role in intelligence but I'm skeptical for now...it could just be ignorance but I can't think of an example that would in any way favor the idea that one race is intelligently superior to the other.
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It's not just melanin either. Medicine has different treatment methods, doses etc for the races. Notable are medicines and treatment for high blood pressure and diabetes which are extremely different for a white person and a brown Asian with the condition. Blacks have a different asthma inhale dosage as their lungs are more capable of opening and actually if you used a white person's inhaler on a black person having an asthma attack, they could temporarily get the opposite problem and their lungs would painfully open wide, spasming.
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Great points there as well and that actually brings up a point as to the justification for Race classification. There's countless entries in our current medical journals that establish solidly that different races react completely differently to medical treatments as well as medicine. Without recognizing Race...we'd never have identified that some Races are more susceptible to types of cancer and life threatening conditions.
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That being said, you're correct and in medicine it's very silly to ignore race as well as gender.
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Likewise certain types of triple-negative breast cancer have been found to disproportionately develop in women of African-American ethnicity, a cancer considered not only aggressive but extremely difficult to target.
https://www.cancercenter.com/community/thrive/genetic-risk-race-and-ethnicity/
It's critical to note that without research centers acknowledging the difference between races and subsequently studying and researching cancer rates/behavior, we wouldn't have the advances in medicine that we have today in regards to cancer treatments for specific demographics.
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Agreed, I don't think there's any correlation between race and values. There is something however, to be said about the correlation between *Culture* and values. There's no doubt that some cultures put disproportionate value on things like freedom of expression and respect for individual lifestyle while other cultures put value on financial success and other cultures press harder for traditional family values. While there is something to be said about certain races dominating specific cultures...I don't think that it's genetic (Biological)...it's more of "That's just the way it aligned".
I can see how it would be easy to confuse Culture and Race as they both tend to align closely. You see cultural crossover more in today's world but the Races still mostly dominate their respective cultures. Cases where someone of a particular Race breaks out of the cultural norm are still the exception to the rule rather than the norm. Makes it really easy to color code people and although you shouldn't...it's understandable. If someone were to look at me and take a guess as to my upbringing, my status in life, my generic history...I wouldn't blame them...prejudging people is in our nature and if it wasn't then we wouldn't distinguish friend from stranger.
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Yes. There are differences. Otherwise the NFL and NBA wouldn't be 75% African American.
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For example, it is undeniable that statistically, on average. black people have lower IQ than white people, and they also have higher height and muscle power than white people. I would explain it by the fact that black people historically predominantly lived in Africa, in the region that for many historical reasons always lagged behind Western territories in development. As such, African people had to rely much more on physical activities, such as hunting, than people in Europe, where some form of technologically advanced civilization existed as early as in 500 BC. People in Europe, on the other hand, shifted much faster towards the intellectual-based society, where the primary activity of a large fraction of the population was intellectual.
Up until the colonial era finally ended around 1960-s, almost all people in Africa were treated as second-rate humans and were mostly illiterate, performing mostly manual labor. And even in the US they faced a lot of racial discrimination, preventing them from getting proper education and, again, forcing them into working on factories or other areas requiring a lot of physical strength and endurance. Hence these differences in IQ and muscle power persisted. They will likely disappear in a couple of centuries, as race becomes less and less of a relevant factor in modern societies, and as the lifestyle of the individual becomes less and less dependent on their race.
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If you're asking if there are developmental differences over vast time (millennia), not decades, that's a much more difficult, if not impossible, question to answer from a single point in time.
As has been expressed, there likely are not significant gene differences and given normalized environment, that likely leads to negligible differences over vast time. However, you likely will always have biological differences between say people raised in an arctic environment vs those raised in a equatorial one or those raised in high altitude climates vs sea level.
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